OWS End Corporate Personhood / Get Money Out of Politics Working Group (part of the Politics & Electoral Reform/P&ER group) meetings at 60 Wall Street.
MEETING MINUTES MISSING FOR SOME MEETINGS BETWEEN 1.18 AND 3/7 AND FOR 8/08 AND 8/15
Oct 24, 2012
Oct 17, 2012
minutes by Stefan
· 7 people present
* Report backs:
- Petition on Staten Island (7-9am Tuesday thru Friday by
* Agenda Items
- Cecelia – Strategic Planning
-- Last we met we narrowed it down to two areas of focus
-- Which item do we focus on: Cultural aspect of people, or
Government responsible to the electorate. We took a vote and decided to talk
about Government responsible to its electorate.
-- Open question: What does a government responsible to the
electorate look like?
-- Limit on campaign spending, Report Backs by government
reps to the people, transparent government, a balance between democracy and an
effective government—we need a representative government—proportional
representation, a government where the purchase of reps is made illegal,
donations to elections should not mean that you own a rep or a party—donations
to the issues not the candidates, transparency with full disclosure—cultural
education about money and politics, limit on campaign spending—capital
punishment for any entity that donates to candidates, a cap on rep
compensation, free media for people that run for government, maybe providing an
alternative to what we want—lead by example,
- John – Help with the petition signing
-- Two issues, lot of people to get tea-party officials
involved in what we are doing—petitioning, get money out of politics…. Jarret
sent out an email about masse coal mine in west Virginia.
-stampstampede.org, next Wednesday at Union sq, south side of union
sq, stamp event all day—October 24th.
Oct 10, 2012
Minutes by Jason
October 3, 2012
MInutes by Tom
the meeting of corps are not people
Osi agreed to participate in voting bloc activity in congressional race
Osi changed language...their voting bloc!
We will need press contact
Will inform people on our listserv
Cecilia knows of press people and may have blown contact.
Used to be in press
Forward media s17 to izthak***********
Stefan Voting Experiment Project
updated software package and working on irv algorithm where it is a more user friendly interface
Paperballot as backup
Tim put together an evening of music
Put people from music and occupy community
Poetry music and merrymaking
One of the owners of the bar says let us do it again
Hoping to expand
Stefan strategic models and planning proposed ... 20 minutes
Izthak....Flyers printed for voting experiment for november 6
Voluteers to administer experiment to voters
Conducted in nycc
Have not dcided on which district
Voters occupy is new group Noz
Subgroup working with people to call city council!
State representatives to albany
Send comm twice a month
Group will meet once a meet and pick 5 points and assembly members about 5 questions
Questions with details
Kathy black syndrome no experience in schools and made schools chancellor for 78 days
Stefan .... We have accomplished ... Maybe a strategic plan might be the one
Plan 1 ,,,,, focused on us identifyly on what an issue is
An undesirable is lack of transparency
Identify the unsersireables ssss
After we idetify the cause then we lower the cause and stop the lack of transparency
No interest in this first model.....
We did a mockup trial run
Helped identify cause not included before
Step one have conversation to lay out values ,,,,Step two, based on that develop action plans
Step three positive evaluation
How out action affected Our goals.
Plan two is more focused on people therefore ’organic’
Cecilia would like to add that she found compelling about thus model in general
When should organic strategic planning be considered
The vision for you org ...might take a long tome to achieve
Efforts to achive vision might involve very diverse people, unstructured
Averse to conducting orderly activities
Culture of the ord hightly values the positive working stories
If org has donors it has confidmce that it can obtain that funding without presenting a conventional strategic plan document
Both plans require that speak up and voluteering where they can
Stick to a sort of schedule since scheduling can be rough
It sounds like is is what neeeds to be done
Cecilia would like to add
I propose that we give is a test run being that it is inportant to get something going
With the idea in mind that we can modify strategic plan
Cecilia will give synopsis
Essentially the same
One clarify stakeholders visions and values
The types of stake holders depend on the purpose of planning
Two each person establisheds personal action plan that he or she can take to the vision and according to the values
This approach appreciative inquiry *** see link
Three each person reports the results of his or her actions and any learnings
Share then with entire group
Update recvisons and values with such. Repeat two and three until vision acheived.
Step one of values and visions inportant
Step teo skips certain classical strategic planning
The point is although i found organic model better it is still deficient in some ways.
The is something missing there says izthak
Cecilia says we should just dive in and people will know if it is working or not.
Nothing about either plan constricts us, just GUIDES US and
at anytime it can be modified and abandoned
Friday at 7pm at liberty
Question as to
Whether we are addressing voting issues ...
Catherine....when i leave these groups it is helpful to me to have some sort of rolse to bring back for the next time. Did not come for a while....if there is structure perhaps
She will be doing district 11 work on amendment / grimm to sign the petition
Cecilia that is exactly what we a trying to achieve to adopt a strategic plan. We are talking about the strategic model.
So we need to do step two
Stefan will start
Values and visions:
Do we all agree that we a here becasue money and politics do not mix.
Stefan should we go home and reflect. No ceccilia says we adopt it and just do it.
Stefan envisions a system of government where money is used for materials for their campaigns from soap to signs. A fixed amount
So that government can focus on legislation not just moving money around.
They do not decide based on argumnets, they only hear how much they are going to get money for campaign
Needs to be citizens arguing why they should be elected
Catherine ...who makes the decisions in Congress?
Stefan we can expand it as days and weeks progress.
Cecilia the first one is to CLARIFY WHAT OUR VISIONS AND GOALS ARE
Fix whatever branch of government that is supposed to be representing the people and rehabilitate it.
Stefan questions how do you envison
Do we construct or tear it down
Point of clarification by
Cecilia: what we are asking in this model is to just give a soundbite,
A few sentences about your vision
What form that would take?
Money is not free speech
Second end the fed rally in november
40 billion a month......many times
Have to work through congresss as they are the ones who control it ultimately
Constitutional amendements are interesting to your review
We would have to get people excited on local level and states
The staes might make their own rules though many do not know legislators
Sometimes you have to do the work for them
Cecelia ... Adopt a constituional amendment
Stefan not a vision more of a task
Suppose an amendment does go through, what will it look like?
WE CAN NEVER HAVE A VIABLE THIRD PARTY CANDIDTATE.....we need multi party system
Or i would imagine that peoplle would run for free
Newspapers people should be allowed to run for free.
Cecelia would like to seee ac onty where anyone can run for office
An unpolutted supreme court
Money is standing in the way of thise things
Money out of elections, governace, the judiciary
Tom no superpacs
Tim re strategic plan organic identify values and visions
Tim vision is more representative goverment....smaller districts
Corporations not people are running government
Vision of people as humans rather than corporations
The parties are a big part of the problem.
Constitutional amendment that corps are not people
That is a tool to get more money
Proportional reprezentation with smaller discticts
Stefan prefers direct representation....no middleman
You vote and get rid of electoral colege
Take away president’s war clause
Progressive radio network Ndaa
News dissector show
COPY AND PASTE CALL IN TOO
Take this specific question home
Clarify your visions and values
Think about thatmso that next week we can have a more protracted conversation
Popular assembly is a break out session and discussion groups
Get together propose topic and discuss
And plan actions
A task or tasks to be proposed to think more of visions and goals to COME UP WITH SENTENCE
OWS revolving ga s
Occupy nyc transit EVENT
No fare hikes
Since summer focused on major issues after being are being hit with higher fares
How many sets of books does the mta have now??
Public hearing nov 7
Brooklyn marriot hotel downtown brooklyn
Nov 13th 450 grand concourse 5pm
bronx at hostos community college
Sheraton la guardia hotel in flushing queens
Ny1.com/transit links to public hearnings
Catherine : there will be an ’end the fed rally’ november 24....will check
October 13 global day of action make noise
Pots and pans
Free university assembly and breakout groups
How does the group feel about the progress about stratgic model
Ccilia moderately beter focus
Stefan getting frustrated
Citizens united anniversary
Occupy faith and ?
Sept 26, 2012
Minutes by Tom
1. Tim Started drrafting a press release about the widespread suppression
of the corporate vote ( a satirical press release as 30 million people
denied their rights to vote);
2. Stefan: there will be a Sunday meeting to do promotional video (?) For
November voting experiment . There exist some questions as to when to
start in November and studio will be rented. IMPORTANTLY THERE NEEDS TO BE
A SCRIPT IDEA. Kitten idea brought up,,,,
3. Cecilia: Facebook (events) page started for the voting experiment this
election cycle (some issues reported....) for the voting experiment pitch.
Volunteers in _______________ (?) requested got description onto webpage.
Not seeking funding to cover experiment on election day?
4. Tom: went through the working groups minutes and emails from earlier in
the year back through March and a voluminous amount of hits on money out of
politics in Google News for three months .Looking to identify ups and
downs. Need to do at least a cut-and-paste and provide a link or print out.
5. Cecilia: trip for Albany. Regarding politics and elect call reform
specifically sub working group to report project to Green party at State
committee party went very well. to give a report back to members of the
Green party on our boarding experiment; personal feedback was received
and people are energized and excited about the project.
6. Bill: invitation is still open on the agenda for Staten island working
group. Regarding a move to amend with Grimm Republican candidate versus
Murphy democrat. A development was that there was a break in where one side
was accusing the other stealing PC system. There will also be a Thursday
night strategy meeting at 3:51 St. Paul’s Avenue SI, nyc
Cecilia re izthak presence of group at presidential debate at Hofstra
Discussion: 10 minute segments to start
Bill: Regarding the amendment process of getting money out of politics for
the Congressional election in Staten island. We want to get one of the
candidates to stand behind an amendment how should Occupy Staten Island
proceed? Getting the candidates information on amending process so far so
not has been approved and they have not been reached out to the candidates
need to be reached out to as to what are the answers from their parties,
then released to the press in October get issue front and center in Staten
island. Get media.
And he said it sucks for people in the debates to only get 3" x 5" index
card for their question.
Stefan: organic strategic model: a three-step approach
This is the second strategic model
There is a hard time presenting as it has to be explained a different way
since it mimics the organic model that people do.
People come to gather and establish value and based on this they act
protest and ??????? STEFAN FILL IN BLANK WORD
this is the three-step process
There will be in the valuation of how this affected us has it improved
change lowered or raised goals?
Organic approach is helpful because of it’s structure
Cecilia has a point of clarification:
Trouble visualizing. It would be easier soon since there has not been any
analysis there will be after action review never did an analysis of how
acted because we evaluated how performed in action for IMPACT
Bill has announced the goal of modeling process for efficiency in the
group of the working of the group for subsequent sessions
Cecelia addresses the following:
I think that the questions he actual of that was very successful not sure
it had impact due to lack of followup.
Energy was harnessed with the plan in place but group was did designed to
have event as the sole focus.
Sept 19 (meeting postponed due to Sept 15-17 actions)
Sept 12, 2012
Minutes by Stefan
1) No Lessig for the 16th
2) Movie "We’re Not Broke," (scheduling this has been difficult)
3) "American Anti-Corruption Act" Nov 13 launch date; a summary will be issued to (?) people at the meeting. An actual plan
is in the works by the composers of the act (unitedrepublic.org).
4) Strategic Plan still in the works
+ Sept 15-17 plans: 15th in Wash Sq park around 10:30/11am. 16th in Foley/Thomas Paine park around 10:30/11am to table.
Cecelia agreed to give a brief speech if the space is provided.
+ United Republic (discussion)
+ Three point agenda item: 1) Numerous polls have shown that 75-85% of Americans ALREADY agree that we should overturn Citizens United 2) There are at least a dozen bills already in Congress to do this 3) None of the bills have a chance to pass because they are being blocked by the 1% party obstructionists in the House. Specifically, what can we do to solve this and get money out of politics? Time requested = 30-40 minutes.
Announcements: Brg Anse (?) is speaking about her book at Tribeca B&N this Friday; Walgreens is having labor disputes...something about potential actions (?)
Sept 5, 2012
Minutes by Stefan
+ Report back: Labor Day march (Bill Johnson) march to Cadman Plaza across BK Bridge, about 30 people in attendance.
+ Occupy Town Square in Sunset Park (Stefan), we had a good time (Jason, Stefan, Cecelia, Tim).
Agenda: movie screening suggestions - "Salt of the Earth," (Herbert Biberman, dir) "Matewan," (based on a true story), "Koyanisquatsi," "Grapes of Wrath," "Inside Job," "Wall Street" (1980), "The Corporation," "Sicko," "Capitalism: A love story," "Burma VJ."
Consensus = Agreed to a suggested donation of $3 as an idea.
Outreach: post flyers, NYCGA/events, coffee shops, book stores (8x11 paper)
Plans for Sept 15-17:
+ Lessig was contacted by Cecelia and he may speak on the 16th
+ Projector - broadcast the event (?)
+ Metro, Village Voice
+ Cecelia will draft a flyer for Lessig/talk
+ We are setting up a table on the 15th
GMOP names changes ??
August 22, 2012
Minutes by Tom
Attendance: Izchak. Will facilitate
Other’s presence are Cecelia, Stefan, Bill, John, Kareem, Tom, Jason, Matthew
1. Voting bloc workshop
With general information disseminated that is useful in the general
Note the similarities and differences
Aware of the two sets of disagreements:
A) fundamental versus non-fundamental...e.g., should we include election
vote off (sorry I could not understand my writing here)
B. the nine fundamentals non profits for instance
The gentleman from Philadelphia then brought to the agenda videos to
present for September 16
The fun idea of showing an addiction to money in the humor category!
Matthew takes stack
A. Report back then
B. agenda items
C. Announcements at the end
Stephan conducting a voting experiment this November
Targeting districts in five boroughs they have assessed how many
volunteers are needed for this experiment
So volunteers would preferably be available for the whole day that is an
Cecilia: there may be in addition people meeting on election day and hour
Karen: question Stephan is this the same as the voting experiment
conducted for a while?
The answer was it will be on the actual people on the ballot
[Then I have a note for Sunday between 3 PM and 5 PM but I do know what it
is is applied to]
Bill John, SI :):
Question and form of statement:
Important to state the premise and process of our exercise
There exists a press release of similar experiment conducted in exit
Experiment tests alternative voting methods versus past
e.g.,., person with most votes wins even if not majority
Jason and asked would it be tested on all levels of government?
Stephan answer is no
B. agenda item 2 is September 17 September 16 September 15
Strategic planning model
Bill jack 1. Occupied Townsquare Sunset Park next Saturday important
2. September 3 Labor Day walk across Brooklyn Bridge to Caribbean Parade
get there after 10 AM
Gather at City Hall Park walk across bridge to Cadman Plaza in Brooklyn
The idea is to start then move away from Wall Street to the outer
It was decided today to give five minutes to each segment following with
the option to add more:
OTS in Sunset Park on 45th and 46 street adjacent to Sunset Park
one tenants that are being forced out Avenue apartment to change the apt
status harassment by electrical and staff
this is a long-standing action where they are refusing to pay rent upon
investigation of the owner and superintendent who allegedly have attacked
some of them.
OWS did actions oo there
Jack’s wish is the message I’ll get money out of politics to put the
agenda of OTS
Saturday 12 to 7 45th St. stop on the R train
Jason has table
Petition public campaign New York
She says I have access to a printer and I can run off a batch of copies
will print stuff
That’s fine will call Jason to coordinate table
Karen. Says it is a beautiful park multiethnic and Cecelia says nice
weather is ahead
Monday, September 3 Brooklyn Bridge banners paper info for between City
Hall Park and Cadman Plaza
The question by Itzhak was who will carry given that it will start at 10
or 11 AM to gather and then noon at Cadman and then subway to Caribbean
parade! Stephan Cecilia and others will work on whether the corporate flag
would be a possibility
Will post the rest on Facebook
Jason asks "any ideas?"
Cecelia says she will message the listserv regarding the banner being
Matt says there exists planning for convergence spaces on 15 September
It will be a more nebulous day to take the corners and pull up a chair
etc. and gather to talk
On September 16 it will be a more regimented time and talk due to mainstage
And set changes for segments
If our working group wants to participate in the conversation/convention
what do we want to do?
For the 17th two things
7 AM on Wall Street
Retreat naturally to secondary spaces
And Emma Goldman workshop for instance at the end of day even?!
The essential question is is there something that this group can present
in 20 minutes slot
Sincerely I will be happy to say a few words on what the whole idea of
money out of politics is
A lot of it came out all.....(?) ....with GOP
MATTHEW ASKED IS THERE ANY OTHER MEDIA
Karen said it is important for bullet point on handouts would like to see
Petitions to sign , chants, broom dance as in town Hall
If you could have been at a presentation and act to deliver our message
though most of us are not professional in this area
But for example I could be Mr. Money bags I need money for something less
corny however I know it can be better but it could be funny and get the
Matthew says a couple of things :
the casserole ballet is congregating
Speak directly to the issue of this working group to address the very
*******note that it next week’s meeting we can have a better
He has done political theater since Vietnam parity and mimicry are fun but
now getting the message out clearly and focus is essential get that out
Get that out!
Regarding the marriage of the person and corporations we generally agree
with money out of politics but an corporate personhood is not our cause
She notes burly Wall Street actions take action phones and calling Mayor
come up with someone to call and message to send
Bernake! Not just mayor !!!
Tele-flash-mob, says Jason
It was noted that Jill Stein is the Green party candidate
Matthew then asks do we have a project concretely what next Wednesday
might assess the limitations yet present information
All agreed to have more ideas next week
Someone post on listserv and do not miss next weeks meeting
Stephan has announcement hat prepublication
There exists there a Huge amount of information
All things campaign
Chat 11am to 5 pm
All things campaign-finance it is a typing chat and one must register
It was stated to Jason what they are doing is the date substance that we
Stephan not ready to present second item open up for discussions since
there is no model to present
Stephan says the question is does anyone know of any model. There exists to issues1. how do you seal decision in horizontal group,different planning for a strategy plan
There are a lot of models ,,,,,
Jason says there exists open space technology for lack of a better word ;
it is from a guy who has been hired by many organizations and corporations
for inventing things
So what are we talking about give me the cliff notes
Model is an agreement between a group of individuals about the problem and
the clause and what limits us in this and how to proceed so there is
agreement to consensus and how to move forward ......
Stephan thinks we need it because what we have done so far is not
affected we need to try new things
I do not have experience from your reference point
We have lethargy in our society to allow how are that is to the point of
bad policies democracy is out the window
It is essential to find others who are doing direct communication with
neighbors For instance Generally people that are motivated and community
Stephan replies we all agree and we need to act
Cecelia we are trying to determine a path to exactly that
What have we done until now?
External and internal stuff Stefan says that would be a change in the
discussion there is a question on the table
THE VOTING EXPERIMENT IS A SUBJECT OF MODEL THAT WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY THE CAUSEs of the.... (Sorry lost notes here)
Secilia says we are talking a bout a model for a SP to move this group over
I think it is a great idea
Address general issue of how we have been doing strategic plan issue is
there are two systems the extern all and the internal
What prevents us internally assets are smart versus others out there
Externally fucked up society
Can we have a working group and do it candidly?
Itzhak is contributing to why the group reiterates doing exercises
bringing in new models are good and Stephan’s Point is take
Jason says we already have a model and we should do one next meeting to
focus discussion and create insights to build on then map online and in person that way things can grow
Jason point of information to options join Google groups or PHP forum
which is independent
Matthew asks what do we do then?
Not particularly horizontal we align with other groups nationally and
build off of information with as many cohorts as we can
Direct action has gifts online song letter company
Jib jab to get attention!
Not horizontal at all just do it!
Play with it on how to bring it up in the conversation
Jason to comment the last three
1. feeding off of network data committee constant information repository
data committee then how will it be applied...
gather ideas on how to use projects
pipe line into September 15, 1617 and tabling
affect consciousness through infrastructure
Data committee to be taken seriously not only is it entertaining...
Hey cause is not just external there are internal causes to be addressed
One of our internalgod data source
Effective communication systems
S17 wg meeting
question what is your intention why do you want to change the system what
would make it worth the......
regarding the internal hey that is why we are here!
there is no real time communication
We do have a written statement
Stephane we would apply a model so everyone is on the same page
A model is
Q what you change
2 what you change it into
3 how to cause it
4 why change it
5 how to continue it
Cecelia says just by what I saw last week I would like to revisit two
models already presented just to keep the discussions going
Jason and others say yes
Cecelia question is there a second model already picked out to discuss
Stephan not really looking at the second model
Question is asked have you all gone to city and city council agenda
Stephan we have several approaches there are some steps toward that goal
with get money out of politics that have.".....
Cecelia offers to talk off-line
Jason an agreement about continuing the exercise done twice
Exhausted until deemed unuseful we have 3 to 4 people and unknown others
that think it is productive
Why not continue exercise if that’s what we want
Matthew asks what is the nature of the exercise
August 1, 2012
Attended: Tom, Cecelia, Stefan, Jason, Izthak, John, Christeena
Mission statement passed around as reminder; Izthak passed around text he worked on with someone from Occupy Albany for us to proof-read and consense on wording changes
Item 1: Jason requested each person express "what is a priority for each
of us get money out of politics " as a survey of people pre
Item 2 : Outreach :
a ) who is willing to do it?
b ) when are persons willing to do it and;
c:) what conditions are appropriate?
Item 3: Wake up Wall Street actions Friday at liberty now 6 pm every Friday
Bob (sp.?, sorry) on OCCUPY STATEN ISLAND: " intention is to connect in
some way as it relates to get money out of politics...how this will go
depends on occupy Staten island and giving it in person is power to it."
Jason: is candidate issue [?] to be prototype experiment ?public
1. voting bloc
2. occupyNorthEast GMOP as interoccupy conference call online
4. name change
5. Stefan...STRATEGIC PLAN a must
agreed to give 5 or less more minutes to discussion on Izthak paragraph
revisions to share with Occupy Albany
Generally struggling with lobbying and transparency of money.
non profits do not have to declare how much they are giving.
the question that needs to be addressed is how deep does that go?
focus on further specifics to be worked on.
constitutional amendment ~!
Izthak: mentioned throwing all the congress people out / traitors
Ceclia: Department of Information now on whether it is it legal to trade on
insider info in congress.
On public financing in new york state, governor cuomo has once again I
started it is a priority but now my trade it as leverage... leverage to
trade on legislators desire for a pay increase
trying to see what combines with the other things..
Stefan: Campaign finace reform in NYS
Christina arrives : "I feel like the corruption of the government is number
2 issue in america are thinking about there must be more permeation of the
outreach at least you every couple of weeks christina does every other
is it for the money out of politics outreach method decided by outreach;
1 form go out and digital ..?
I need a plan for 99 banners on I 95 between new york city and washington
people are needed and it was requested that someone be the point person
next the point was brought up about leaving out the expression big money
from get money out of politics
coverage is especially needed from new york city to trenton make an
no one volunteered to do the nyc to trenton i95
please note the creative how are of banner is very passionate about get
money out of politics and as friends with someone and direct action every
week a surprise march to a donor with banners and even sometimes with civil
disobedience (!) *perhaps it will create media coverage! Needs volunteers
new participants for such too.
point of information that it would probably be 1 night for such a violation
of civil disobedience
point of information when we were organizing citizens united in January
many corporations were focused on 1 day (Jan 21, 2011).
Cecila: every 2 weeks showing exactly...?....common cause suggested it;
Cecila also needs data and a mic. checker for actions.
Re: friday actions -- use list and email?
every other friday Zuccotti
emphasize the importance of media and certainly public media relations to
the best of the ability of the working group or a group to be created or
associate it with..
public media relations!
live stream you stream village voice the villager progressive newspapers
progressive website with comments facebook hundreds of digital social
networks and a public relations person that knows how to turn the media
attention as need be to the best of our abilities
Barbara Pressman was involved in media and if you can contact her she was
our media person
On the dedicated GMOP there is this a group of 10 people in north east
working on coordinating working group in the northeast.*
Jarret is the other person in new york city not active now retired
replacement needed to fill vacuum
*operated by LISTSERV and telephone conferences
as far as name change because we are de facto "money out of politics";
christina and others agreed that this is good and we will move on
Stefan: There exists no strategic plan now but
step 1: please answer what is your idea of a strategic plan.
Izthak: a strategic planning what karen and caroline said should be
accepted but it got lost
Stefan: (no history just give your opinion, please.)
Iztak: it starts with analysis strengths weaknesses opportunities and
so how do we analyze and achieve a cause of what we should be or do?
multiple goals depend on our analysis of get money out of politics and
the goal was stated in vision statement.
Cecilia : A calendar to extrapolate time line essential.
Christina: not sure we need Strategic plan
and balls of gold then what components are needed to achieve goals examples
outreach actions and media
hey divide and conquer it is also a set of protocol that people agreed to
do toward the goal... the 1 goal
we must honestly analyze how and why this group shrunk
how do we view direct action for our group?
in reality of the ’political arena’,... what we will not do endorsements
of candidate, etc. what is likely or unlikely?
"Strategic Plan" is a guiding document the environment will dictate whether
it will happen or not
40 video-links on citizens united [insert web-link]
besides the fact I like the idea we need to as we were formerly derailed.
I will bring abstract next week
July 18 (no formal meeting?)
(John took "minutes")
john, itzhak, andy, nick, elsbeth, cecelia, caroline, stepha,
next steps including merge
voting bloc from itzhak
no conclusions were consensed
July 4 (no meeting)
June 27 (update)
agenda: the national assembly in philly, general outreach, strategic
planning and more.
6:30-8:30p @ common cause/ny, 74 trinity place, suite 901 for "training" session
June 13 (update)
on the agenda: the rally, general outreach, the national assembly in
philly and who knows what else! if you have something to add, let me
June 6 minutes for public campaign finance teleconference planning action
notes from call 6-6-12
We decided to have an action:
- Thurs. June 14
- Gov. Cuomo’s office - (633 3rd ave between 40th & 41st)
Our vision was like this:
- Start with a table, gather signatures on petition and hand out
literature in the early part
- We won’t have enough signatures for an impressive delivery, but
thought we’d deliver a letter asking Cuomo to support PCF, and
describing the support we’ve found among the people
- Later on, do the mop dance and chants
Questions and to do’s:
Jarret: contact Jason and Stefan about making an online petition to
go with the paper ones
Jarret: contact CANY, CC and invite them
Jarret: Post on Facebook
Jarret has GMOP flag.
Question: Who has corporate flag?
Question: Who can bring table?
Cecelia: Ask Anthony if he can video
Karen: contact Carolyn about mops, mop dance, chants
Karen: Post chants to listserv for thoughts, additions
Karen: write email blurb and press release
Question: Who sent press release out before and could they do it
All: Suggest flyer content - more detail on issue
All: Download petition from yahoo group site and get sigs!
NEXT CALL: Tues. 6/12 9pm
taken by karen.
May 30 (update)
agenda: new york state public campaign financing, strategic planning,
national assembly, name change and more!
May 23, 2012 minutes
attendees: cecelia, jerry, susan, jarret, john s., carolyn, itzhak,
bill, christina, cynthia, mudassir
report backs: teach in (itzhak); new ga - saturdays, 7p @ 60 wall
(bill); golden/knock for 99 (mudassir); david cobb (john s.)
public campaign financing in new york state (jarret):
- petition to cuomo: "i care about getting the corrupting influence of
money out of politics. i want a fair election process and a
government that works for all people, not just the special interests.
please support a robust campaign financing system which limits the
role of private money in our political system." (consensus)
- paper only since we’re not equipped to handle an online version
- possible day of action on may, 31 in conjunction with gmop albany’s
press conference and cany’s delivery of letters to golden and other
meeting rules (john s.):
- 1) people should give a time estimate when they submit agenda items
- 2) facilitator assembles list and suggests time adjustments when
- 3) facilitator suggests order of list (consensus after friendly
amendment to maintain the traditional order of report backs, agenda
items and announcements)
- 4) immediate response (withdrawn)
- 5) agenda items timed not people (no consensus)
- 6) at end of each meeting agenda items for the following meeting are
strategic planning (carolyn):
- strengths & weaknesses
national assembly in philly (jarret):
- june 30 to july 4 when they will attempt to come up with an occupy
- we should do something in conjunction with the north east regional
- jarret will take point
- bill is walking to philly
name change (itzhak):
- wants to officially change name to get money out of politics
- temperature check was positive
- will formally propose in the near future
- carolyn wants to interview occupiers for some kind of video project
if anyone is interested <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- gmop hosting free kock brothers movie screening june 4 <http://
May 16, 2012 minutes
attendees: cecelia, itzhak, john s., jarret, bill, stefan, issac,
karen, mudassir, cat, jason, carolyn
minutes: john s.
report backs: david cobb (john s.), times square sit down (cecelia),
gold 4 golden (bill), bank day (?), da action (?), voting bloc & n.e.
regional coalition (itzhak), strategic planning (carolyn)
- occupy national gathering in philly june 30 - july 4
- gmop hosting kock brothers movie screening june 4 (cecelia & jason)
meeting rules (john s.):
- numerous minor procedural changes proposed
- will draft a summary and send it to the group for conclusion next
public campaign financing in new york state (karen & jarret):
- probably won’t come to a vote in state senate by end of session
- still want to plan action targeting cuomo (skelos/silver?)
- want to work with our sister groups in albany, syracuse & rochester
(clean elections now)
- working on message (broad vs. specifics)
- jason wants info for notepad
[forced to leave atrium after suspicious package found by security.
relocated to outdoor seating area down the block.]
electronic communications (itzhak):
- presented some preliminary info on electronic comm. issues and
polled us to complete subgroup’s analysis
May 9, 2012 minutes
attendees: cecelia, caroline l., barbara, itzhak, dj, hollie, john
s., ben, sally, emily, jarret, kyle, bill, stefan
time: caroline l.
report backs: gold 4 golden (bill); state resolution (jarret);
meet the 99 (caroline l.):
- new working group focused on more effective campaign messaging based
on public opinion polling and research
- interested in working with us on a specific action/campaign
- will let us know if public campaign financing in new york state is
something they want to work on
public campaign financing in new york state (jarret & emily):
- the team had decided to target cuomo on their last conference call
- new information surfaced calling into question whether the bill
would be voted on in the state senate this session which ends on june
- emily suggested we hit silver
- jarret suggested we needed to reassess our strategy
- john s. suggested the team bring their analysis of the situation to
internal communications (itzhak):
- barbara will take point on the state resolution effort and resource
- kock brothers movie screening 5/24 at all souls church (sally)
- possible kock brothers movie screening 6/4 hosted by ecp/gmop
May 2, 2012 minutes
Recorded by Itzhak Epstein
Moderating – Jarret
Notes – Itzhak
Time – Michael
Stack – Bill
Public Campaign Finance, turned into a full blown discussion.
The draft by the sub-working-group was reviewed and consented to after
five amendments were added.
Our mission is to eliminate the corrosive, non democratic, influence
of private money on our public electoral systems and government.
We will achieve tangible progress towards this mission with a
strategic approach to actions that may include the following:
❶ Research and self-education.
❷ Public outreach and education.
❸ Non violent direct actions that bring attention to the issues and
❹ Calling for and supporting appropriate legislation, resolutions,
ballot initiatives and constitutional amendments at the local, state
and federal levels.
❺ Building support among activists and organizations across the
Due to the shortness of time, no discussion occurred. We filled out a
questionnaire that will be reviewed and analyzed by the sub-working-
group that is working on this matter.
Wednesday, May 9th, 7-9p, in the Atrium @ 60 Wall Street
Edited & Posted by Jarret
OWS Ending Corporate Personhood/Getting Money Out of Politics
Minutes from April 25 Weekly Meeting by Cecelia
20 in Attendance
Support for Occupy Albany Elections Bill
Campaign Finance Reform In New York State
- Decision on whether or not to support Albany bill was tabled to give
members time to review the bill. John Steefel is bottom lining getting
information on the bill.
- Rosemary is taking point on public finance for NY State Elections.
She gathered names of anyone interested in keeping informed and/or
join in a break out.
- Itzhak is taking point on electronic communications. He will
convene a meeting before our next weekly meeting.
- Second (and possibly last) breakout on long term mission is
scheduled for 5:30pm Sunday 4/29 at 60 Wall.
Minutes from April 18th (part of our regular
1st Strategic Planning Meeting- happening during 30/40 minutes of our
regular Wednesday meeting: April 18th (I think)
So Very broad strokes, this section was facilitated by Max Bean.
Question: What is the purpose of this group:
• End corporate personhood
• Get private money out of politics
• Declaration that money is not speech
• Plan of Action for citizens united
• Corporations are not people
Question: what are your long term goals?
• Public Campaign Financing in NY State
• Constitutional Admendment
• Voting block
• Improve internal communications
• Corporate Tour
• Data Gathering
• define success
Question what are some of the tools and tactics you would like to
• Movie nights
• Collaborating with other OWS groups
• Collaborating with other non-profits and non-OWS groups
• Voting block
• Connect with Media organizations
• Pledge for politicians
• Create our own youtube videos
• Dramatic actions
• Manhattan neighborhood network
We did an informal vote on how many people supported direct actions as
a main area of tools and tactics: 10 people did.
We did an informal vote on how many people supported lobbying or
petitions as a main area of tools and tactics: 12 people did.
What is needed from Strategic Planning:
• NY State Campaign Finance: 2 months
• Mission statement
• Realistic about resources
• Organize database of resources
• Clarify targets/ clarify message
• Get more elected officials involved/in support
• Not re-inventing the wheel
How to proceed:
Focus on NY State Campaign
Long meeting: 3 hours to discuss Strategic Planning
Goals & Mission & Purpose
OWS End Corporate Personhood Minute 3/7/12
o Report back on Montana
o Discussion of Article III
o Report back about F29
o Report back on NY State Public Campaign Financing
o Proposal to host a talk by David Cobb on March 26
o Proposal to change name of group to “Get Money Out of Politics”
o Discussion of Tax day
o Report back on Occupy New York (coalition of Get Money Out of Politics groups around New York state) – if we have time
o Discussion of HR 347
o Proposal for getting NYC Resolution passed state-wide
o Constitutional Convention to pass amendment ending corporate personhood
· John: Article III of the Constitution states that “The Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction… with such exceptions as the Congress shall make.” So Congress can pass a law saying SCOTUS does not have jurisdiction over campaign finance
o John posted a thread on listserv so please take a look at the document and do some reading about this
· Report back from John on Montana: American Tradition Partnership should submit documents to Supreme Court so they can review Citizens United again. Please contact ATP and ask them to file documents: www.americantradition.org 703-200-3669
· Report back from Lorraine on F29 – event was cold but successful. Arrived at Bryant Park at 9, then marched to corporations, then came back to park. Not a big ECP presence –just some homemade signs (one of them featured in Rolling Stone). Successful event.
o We will form a team so we can have a group ready to go establish a presence at these big events. M17 coming up. Anthony will take point on that so email him if you want to be at events to represent ECP.
§ Team can also make an inventory of what buttons, signs, flags, etc., we have, and who has them, so it’s easy to find when someone needs it. Barbara will get in touch with Anthony to coordinate this
· Report back from Karen on NY State campaign for campaign finance reform: We’re working on flyer to get people informed about this campaign. We have meeting with man from Brennan Center to educate us on the issue and discuss their approach. If you want to get involved in this, post on the google group or email Karen at Karen@greenpartynyc.org. Planning town hall meeting and also trying to think of a different fun event
· Jarret report back on “Occupy NY” statewide ECP efforts: Occupy NY is proposing to send around a letter to elected officials calling for “clean” elections and an amendment that gives the people the right to regulate campaign finance (vague, not bogged down in specifics). Will ask elected officials if they will support the proposals. Talk to Jarret if you have contacts at other NY occupations.
· Sam on Constitutional Convention: Sam is from organization called Wolf Pac with goal of getting money out of politics by passing an amendment through the constitutional convention process. By July 4 wants as many municipalities as possible to call on state reps to pass a resolution calling for a convention. In summer, want to work on getting states to pass those resolutions. Also trying to get politicians on record on whether they do or do not support this. Get involved at wolf-pac.com, contact Sam at email@example.com, or contact Jarret for access to our sister group working on this issue (Campaign for Constitutional Convention).
· Proposal to change name of group to Get Money Out of Politics (GMOP):
o Everything we’re doing is about getting $ out of politics, whether its state campaign finance reform, a constitutional convention, overturning citizens united, etc. GMOP encompasses everything. This name is being used by similar groups in other occupations (incl. DC, Seattle) – run around with mops to “clean up politics.” Mission will remain the same.
o No consensus reached, discussion tabled
· Proposal to organize event for David Cobb on March 26: Move to Amend is asking us if we can host David Cobb give a talk on the basics to spread awareness of this issue to a wider audience. They want a minimum audience of 30. Group supports this. Naomi will take point on organizing
· Lorraine will start email list and establish a push for a statewide resolution – contact her to work on this.
· Tax Day: Kim will take point on seeing what Messaging is planning so we can coordinate.
· HR 347 discussion: "Anti Protest Law." Not really appropriate for this group but those interested (Barbara, Lorraine, etc.) should speak separately. There is another subgroup from PAER that is forming to deal with issues like this and NDAA called Constitutional Infringement.
· Next meeting will be Wednesday, March 14
Minutes from 1/18/12 meeting in the Atrium @ 60 Wall St.
Reports backs – 5 min
· Melina: we have a contact with a package including stage, lights,
sound, speakers, a mic and mic stand – he will donate the package. Yay!
o Rev. Bill and choir require three speakers so we’re gonna need 2 more
mics and a mixer
o We have people coming in to set up and break down – asking for $200.
Also, mixer costs $50
§ So, everyone please donate $10! We will discuss this later.
o Sally thinks she has mics
· Question – is permit for amplification?
o Answer: There are 2 permits! One to be there, one for sound
· Rebecca – maybe we shouldn’t work with Occupy the Dream because had
bad experience with them in planning for MLK Day -- specific examples,
didn’t feel there was real collaboration
o Q: What does this have to do with corporate personhood?
§ A: Russell Simmons and Ben Chavis part of OTD, wants to let people know
they aren’t necessarily easy to work with, we may need to be clear that
this group will never endorse a political candidate or party (b/c OTD is
o Comment: Keep Russell Simmons in check. He coopts our meetings!
§ Response: sometimes he just tries to coopt them but we can get him into
shape. But he and his people have been difficult in planning the rally – he
wanted to go before Rev. Billy, but we said no.
o Might be difficult to rein Russell Simmons in when he is actually on
§ We will have to hold up big time placard so everyone knows when his time
· Maybe we can pull him off stage with an enormous hook…
§ Point of information – he does have an event at 7:30 he needs to be at
upstate so he does not have unlimited time.
· Cara – maybe we can use band as timekeeper – play speakers off the
o Uptwinkles all around!
· Q: Who cares if speakers go over?
o A: we need to start breaking equipment down at 7 to be totally out of
Foley by 8. It will be cold. Courtesy to other speakers.
· Rebecca: Let’s make it clear that no speaker will promote a
political party or candidate. Have MCs restate it, make sure everyone knows
· More comments about Russell Simmons, how to keep speakers short and
· Comment: We are not a political movement. We have no political
agenda. Our only issue is ending corporate personhood.
· RMO will lead us on the march from Zuccotti to Foley
· Aaron’s report back:
o We need a time estimate from Rev. Billy so we know how long they plan
for invocation – right now he has them down for 10 min.
§ Jason – I’ll tell him to do 7-10 min.
o And we need to know if Russell Simmons can start after Rev. Billy. If
Rev. Billy has 10 min. and we have 2 min for MC, then RS won’t start until
6:12. Will he storm off in a huff?
§ Jarrett – he can wait to start at 6:12. We’ll make it work.
o Do we want Mendez to speak? We are having other councilmember’s speak
so seems like a double standard… Mendez has accepted the invite. We don’t
know if it’s been withdrawn.
§ Melina – let’s open stack on the issue of having politicians speak.
· Jason: point of info – Rev Billy’s choir will march with us and THEN
do the invocation.
o Response: they are welcome to march but not perform because RMO is
· Jack – an assemblyman might give him a letter to read
o Response: we already had a conversation about whether we want to
incorporate politicians and we already have more than we need.
· Melina – two women active in the group have autonomously invited
city council members. Creates complications for us. Personally would rather
have them present in support but not speaking because they have regular
opportunities to be on stage and talk
· Bill – agrees with Melina. Three councilmembers are now involved and
we want to dissuade them from speaking but we don’t want to be rude.
· Aaron – has reservations about withdrawing invites to people who are
supportive. If we withdraw on any one politician we have to withdraw on all
of them. Real q is not about whether they already have opportunity to
speak, is about whether they are politicians or not. We have room in
schedule for all of them.
o We have an avg. of 5 min. 20 seconds per person including 2
councilmembers (the 3rd would speak during the march)
· Jarrett – we need to support the politicians who are fighting for
things we agree with. But group decided by consensus that we don’t want to
do that. I had already invited Levin. We didn’t know Anne had already
invited Mendez. We should just have her explain to Mendez that she didn’t
have authority to invite her.
· Rick: Carne Ross, the author of the Leaderless Revolution is willing
· Naomi: rude to uninvited them, esp. some but not others – let’s have
them all get up on stage together, give them a round of applause for
passing resolution in council, and give them 1 or 2 minutes to say they are
happy to be part of this movement.
· Rebecca: alternative idea – let’s have a people’s mic session after
the rally and have them speak there. So they are on same level as everyone
· Jack: this weekend we were at CWU, politicians were there, they each
gave little speeches under 2 minutes.
· John: wants people to rethink this a little bit. Were here because
corporations have stepped on our rights, why do we want to step on rights
of politicians? We’ll make it clear to them that they are there to support
us and support an amendment. No need to lock out potential allies and
· Barbara: rude to uninvited people. I like Naomi’s suggestion and
Rebecca’s idea. There are ways we can deal with it besides uninviting
· Emily: rude to uninvited people who have already accepted. If we
combine them and give them 3 min. to speak on money in politics and
· Melina: I’m hearing general agreement we don’t want to uninvited
them, there’s some way to work with this. Consensus?
o Uptwinkles all around! Consensus that we will not uninvited anyone has
· Aaron: consensus is always open to further consensus. We don’t have
to decide whether we already came to consensus. Also, let’s vote on Naomi’s
proposal. Also, in addition to/instead of Naomi’s proposal, think tank can
facilitate think tank in the park and incorporate politicians on stack.
Finally, let’s discuss proposal of Carne Ross because he’s a fantastic
speaker, member of OWS, used to be politican but not anymore, if we combine
3 politicians we have time for him.
§ Melina – overview of proposals: 1) think tank at Zuccotti, 2) three of
them on stage, 3) one at park and two on stage. Makes more sense to keep 3
together à uptwinkles.
§ Jarrett: just FYI I told Levin he’d be the only politician. But is fine
to tell him that other invitations were actually issued.
§ Melina: so how about we invite them into think tank, and give the 3 of
them a short amount of time.
§ Cara: move to vote on Naomi’s and Aaron’s proposals.
· Jarret: let’s give them 6 minutes so we can say 2 minutes each.
· Uptwinkles all around. Consensus. Yay!
· Jason – talked to liaison
-minutes continued after brief technical issues!
-everyone is ok with including carne ross. but speakers are still up
in the air, we still have invites out and more speakers who might come
on board. so if there’s time on the day let’s include him. we can
leave it up to committee dealing with schedule and speakers.
-melina: let’s let him know by tomorrow (1/19) so he has time to
-Next topic: how much lead time do we need for J21 fliers?
-Sally: we decided to hand out fliers on saturday that will all be
the same except one section on back specific to particular buildings
we will be near. How much time do we need to make lots of copies?
-Cara would like to get the final versions by tonight.
-Sally: I don’t have the info for fossil fuels or pharma yet. Can we
do banking and telecom tonight, and give you fossil fuels and pharma
tomorrow? Cara: yes. get them to me ASAP.
-what is status of union outreach?
-Jarret: we have head from CWA - the only union that has come out
against corporate personhood. Jason is in talks with them trying to
get president to speak. Would rather have him than Carne Ross if he
agrees to speak. We need to have unions challenging corporate
personhood because overturning CU affects unions as well as
-we’ve been trying to reach out to SEIU, TWU, teamsters, and other
unions but haven’t had responses. Probably because CWA is only union
to come out against Citizens United.
-q: what exactly are we asking of the unions? a: for people to come
out and have a presence at this action. getting bodies.
-aaron: we have requested legal observers from NLG. we don’t have
confirmation but he expects we’ll have them. because they’re
volunteers, they just send a blast in the morning asking for
volunteers, so we can’t get "confirmation" in advance. confident they
will be there on both friday and saturday.
-we have marshals committed for the saturday march but we need 3-5
more. let’s reach out to friends and contacts and recruit. let’s also
get people to volunteer for friday march
-friday volunteers: naomi, derrick and sally.
-Jack: I volunteer to be a walking dead corporation.
-We still need someone to hold up timecard for the whole time people
are speaking on Friday.
-Jason might possibly be willing to be timekeeper. We will ask on the
-Q: Aaron, can you print chants and songs? A: Yes, I can print 100,
if you send them by Thursday morning.
-Lights and stage: we need to pay $200 for equipment and help setting
up and breaking down. Can we each give $10? Uptwinkles.
-Lily -- my husband does this for a living. He can be liaison with
- Barbara has a generator - but it won’t be big enough for what we
need and we will trust these professional volunteers.
-We still need two more microphones and stands. Sally can get us one
or two mics. Andre might have one too.
-Next up: warm beverages!
-Tomorrow at 8pm in 60 Wall is the next kitchen meeting. We need
someone there to request 500 servings of hot chocolate and tea at
Foley Sq by 5:45 on Friday, and Saturday coffee and hot chocolate for
250 in City Hall park and cups. Who can go to the meeting?
- Lily can go! Yay!
- Aaron wants to just decide on schedule and not have to have a huge
conversation about it.
-Sally: let’s delegate it to small group of people.
- Jarrett, Melina, Anthony, Cara, Barbara, and Jason want to be on
-Who should be OWS speaker?
-Aaron asked Alexis. She is in a few working groups, women’s caucus
but especially Occupy the SEC. Working on a public comment letter on
the Volcker Rule - really into the nitty gritty of money in politics.
- Itzhak - OWS doesn’t have spokespeople so let’s be sure not to
introduce as such. Also, lobbying is a different issue than putting
money in politics - do we want to get into this at all?
- Naomi - not an issue, Alexis isn’t going to discuss her
Occupy the SEC, just Citizens United and corporate personhood.
-Alexis - I haven’t written anything yet, and am happy to
or to take a list of talking points or say something prepared. But one
idea i have is to talk facts about amount of money going to specific
PACS and candidates now vs. before CU and before McCain Feingold.
-Jarrett - wants to hear OWS speaker not just give facts,
but tie in
corporate personhood to OWS more widely and to them individually.
-Melina - important to tie it into humanity in general. The human
element of why are we all here in cold?
-Everyone wants Alexis to talk? Uptwinkles all around!
-Melina: On Saturday, when we’re on subway cars, we can use that time
and space to educate people. We talked about one person sharing a
story, others echoing through people’s mic. Can use Andre’s factoids
about the justices who voted for citizens united and Cara’s info on
"super pacs and the corporations who love them." -- juicy things to
share on the train
-Cara: Jennifer might be making info packets to give out on subways.
Will find out the details from her.
- Aaron and Jarrett will lead this action on two subway cars - we
will find a third person on the day if need be.
- Aaron: let’s get on outreach. Also my friend David the playwright
wrote some monologues including some of corporations. Let’s use em!
- Barbara: I need specific facts for press releases for these actions.
-Sally: this action is in conjunction with stuff happening across the
US. Wants to run it past everyone that it’s ok with everyone to say in
both actions that we’re in conjunction with Move to Amend and Public
Citizen. Do we want to acknowledge organizations that have helped us?
-Yes, it’s fine with everyone to acknowledge them as long as we don’t
word it like they’re a sponsoring organization. Let’s say "in
solidarity with…." Uptwinkles.
-Melina - was working with OWS Design to create some beautiful signs
that would create impact - two options that read "corrosive indecent
repeal corporate personhood."
- people don’t like "corrosive indecent" -- alternative idea:
"Corporations are not people. Money is not speech."
- Aaron just printed 100 11x17 posters that he emailed out
-Jarrett is hoping for posters from Public Citizen
-let’s have followup meeting after these actions! we will decide on a
Minutes from 1/15/12 meeting in the Atrium @ 60 Wall St.
Action items left unassigned:
- Need coordinator, multiple volunteers to bring cardboard and
markers to City Hall for signmaking at noon on J21
Action items assigned to individuals:
- Jarret: Find out how long Reverend Billy & Choir need for their
invocation & song
- Jarret: Coordinate with NLG about permit for J20 at Foley
- Anthony and Lorraine: Point for stage, lighting, sound equipment,
- Secure backup plans for each of these items
- Anyone with information on event production, insurance, rental,
etc, contact: Anthonyp495@gmail.com
- Aaron: Secure a backup location for J20 rally
- Aaron: Coordinate NLG observers for both J20 and J21
- Aaron: Speaker logistics (arrival time, handlers, etc)
- If you have been in contact with a speaker, please CC Aaron
- Cara: public outreach (canvassers, websites, etc)
- She and Jason need volunteers to handle fliers
- firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com
- Melina is coordinating a list of "scouts" for J21: Jim, Frank, Naomi, Derrick
- Melina is coordinating speakers for J21
- Members of clergy interested in speaking about Bank of America,
Melina will coordinate with Michael from OccupyFaith
- Arlene? Followup with MoveOn, MoveToAmend, etc
- Sarah is coordinating J21 information fliers
- Barbara, is coordinating Moynihan meeters/greeters
EndCorporatePersonhood meeting, 01.15.2012
1. Speakers + schedule
- Q: How long does Billy need?
- Concern expressed about the length of the rally (1hr)
- How do we select the Occupier speaker?
- Proposal: We don’t need an additional Occupier besides the MC
- Tabled to end of meeting
- Proposal: Limit to 3-7 minutes in our guidelines
2. J20 rally logistics
- Permits for Foley Square still outstanding: both assembly
- NLG on this
- Backup location?
- ACTION: We need volunteers to guide people in case there
is a higher arrestability to this action
- Speakers, stage, lights
- Anthony & Lorraine are bottom-lining stage, generator,
lights, setup & transportation
- ACTION: We need backup plans for all of these items
- Outreach to the public
- Cara is bottom-lining
- Not discussed:
- Outreach to Unions?
- Moynihan greeters?
- Cardboard + markers?
3. J21 march logistics
- Sarah brought this to justice united
- 3/400 fliers have gone out already
- ACTION: We need more volunteers to hand out fliers
- Melina is coordinating a list of scouts: Jim, Frank, Naomi, Derrick
- Occupy Faith is having a press conference at City Hall, will
start at ~11:45am, dovetail with our event
- They want us to invite people to join their press
conference, so show up at 11:45am
- Potential involvement of RMO, offer was extended, unclear
- Informational fliers
- Sarah is coordinating this, creating informative fliers
- (either one for each site or multiple corporations
on one flier, will work on this)
- Cara offers printing resources
- Jim offers to set up a central repository for informative links
- Speakers / contributors
- Members of clergy?
- ACTION: Melina will coordinate with Michael
- Individuals at static locations
- ACTION: Volunteers needed, contact Melina
- Request to share corporation research on the notepad at
- Alternately, email directly to Jason: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Not discussed:
- City hall greeters?
- Cardboard + markers?
4. NLG Observers
Aaron will bottom-line reserving these
- Must coordinate with Melina about anticipated numbers of
attendees and distance of Saturday march
[ MISSING MINUTES FOR MEETING BETWEEN 01/06 & 01/15 ]
the fifth meeting minutes
Minutes from 1/6/12 meeting in the Atrium @ 60 Wall St.
Melina reviewed the two actions we have planned
First: Move To Amend Occupy the Courts action 1/20/12, 5 – 7 PM
Rally and march from Moynihan Court House on 500 Pearl to Foley Sq
Second: Occupy the Corporations action 1/21/12, 1-3 PM
People with signs and flyers outside corporate outlets, converge on
central location at end, possibly a moving march from location to
location during action.
We also review the resolution that passed the NYCGA & the passage of
another resolution in the NY City Council. Talked a little – and
decided to talk more later – about what to do next.
We have permits to be at 500 Pearl St. from 5 to 6, and Foley from 6
Speakers – We’d like Judges Jed Rakoff & Karen Smith. Ellen & Sally
will see if they can get good contact info for them. Chen will reach
out to OWS Legal to see if they have contact.
There was discussion about whether or not to invite politicians.
With significant feeling that we shouldn’t, we decided not to issue
any more invitations to them, but, since an invitation has already
been issued to Steve Levin, of the Progressive Caucus of the City
Council, we will see what he says. If he accepts, we will suggest
strongly that he speak about next steps to further the cause. Maybe
we can get away here with just thanking the Progressive Caucus, not
letting them speak.
We have gotten responses with interest from Chris Hedges and Rev.
Billy. (Hedges contact moving partly through David Cobb of Move to
We have tried to contact Stephen Colbert & Michael Moore, but have had
Other ideas: Matt Taibi, people who have been directly harmed by the
Citizens United decision or the doctrine of corporate personhood.
Anyone who has contacts or knows of people who might fit the last
category (harmed by CU) please let us know.
Promotion - Two orgs against personhood were mentioned here:
Restore Democracy – (This is the title of a petition to Obama at the
White House petition site to Restore Democracy by ending Corporate
Personhood. I can’t find another reference.)
POCLAD. Ellen will contact POCLAD & see if they can help us.
Program - We asked the Direct Action people if they saw this as a
venue for them. They felt the formal rally was not, but we discussed
the early part at Moynihan as a possible place for it. JACK discussed
the popularity of the sign “I’ll believe corporations are people when
Texas executes one!” at various OWS events and volunteered to
impersonate a corporation and be hanged. Maikel suggested a heavy-
handed lawman combing the crowd asking people if they are corporations
– in order to find one to execute. We also talked about signs here.
We felt it would be great to have ones that pointed up the differences
between corps & people – no belly button, corp can’t donate organs,
etc. A Truth and Reconciliation Commission - style confessional was
suggested, as well as a beauty contest type event to find the worst
Does anyone have music contacts? Melina will do research on OWS
Benefit album & see if there’s anyone to ask there. Jason will ask
Rev. Billy about his choir when he talks to him. Chen will contact
the Rude Mechanical Orchestra.
We also talked about having a sign-making station at the Moynihan part
of this rally, so people can make their own signs. Chen will either
get a permit for, or find out about having materials there. We could
have a blank banner that people sign and decorate – then use it on
Promotion Again - Press team – will anyone join? Jason will
coordinate. Lorraine will help. Chen needs a timeline on this. We
would like to finalize stuff in order to send out press next week.
Chen & Melina will figure out a timeline for the press.
Possible press – can we contact Amy Goodman & Juan Gonzalez?
Possible networks to publicize through - Can we get the MoveOn list?
What about Working Families Party?
We will have 200 – 300 flyers printed by next week’s meeting. Jason
will bring them to the meeting. The flyer is also available online if
anyone wants to print their own. Melina will send a pdf to Ellen.
Signs & Banners - Jason is heading signs and banners, but needs
someone else. He has filled out forms w/ DA painters, but has not
heard back. The screen printers know about this. He asked for fabric
donations for screen printing, but got none. He would also like to
put the Monopoly man graphic on balloons to bring in kids. Chen has
access to screen printing, but we would have to pay for ink. How will
fabric pieces be displayed? Pinned on people, glued to signs?
Madeline of DA said that the best looking signs were the home-made
ones – this led into idea of a sign-making station on Friday. Ideas:
“People pay for their mistakes, why not corporations?” We need giant
banners. Jason said Athena could bring giant banner.
Ideas suggested: Bank of America, 72nd St. next to Trader Joe’s; GE
Bldg in Rockefeller Center, where we could suggest that GE is a person
with multiple personalities, Manhattan Mall at 34th & 6th (possibly
multiple personalities again); BP gas station, Houston between
Lafayette & Broadway; locations near City Hall park to pick up on City
Hall Park Rally happening 11 – 1: Verizon store on Broadway, BOA @
Warren & B’way, Chase Bank @ B’way & Fulton; Union Square: Verizon
store 2 blocks north, BOA on southwest corner of Union Sq.
New Ideas: ATT; Newscorps; Apple store in Grand Central; indoor
atria in case of bad weather
We discussed stable locations vs a moving march and decided that we
would like to have a few stable locations (with a minimum number of
people to guard against police harassment) and then converge on a
central location, plus a moving march – or possibly more - that move
around within fairly small areas, then end at the central location.
This depends on having enough people. We could schedule people who
sign up to be at specific places – then have a location for the
beginning of the event where others could converge & be assigned a
spot. We figured that we should have at least 50 people from the ones
we knew about already.
Outreach – everyone was encouraged to go to http://www.united4thepeople.org
to sign up so that we can start planning around numbers.
We felt that we should go ahead unless we had a blizzard, in which
case, the Friday event could be wrapped into the Saturday event. We
will talk more about this on the google group. Storycorp has a
trailer in Foley Sq. that might be able to be used. Madeline has a
contact with them & will pursue. Participation in the Saturday event
requires an RSVP at this point, since locations aren’t posted. This
gives a way to notify about weather, with a 24 hr. previous decision
point. We can also notify through twitter. There should be a phone #
contact for the day.
Research & Writing
We need factoids about bad corporations: short items that are sourced
that can be inserted wherever we need them – not links to articles,
but short facts. Lorraine & Derek said they would work on that.
Jason has a list on notepad. The flyer should emphasize “What will
you do?” to let people know they have to get involved.
Then we talked about next steps: a ballot initiative in NYC & a push
toward the state legislature were discussed. Ellen said that
Bloomberg will never allow an NYC ballot initiative & has the power to
stop it. Itzhak pointed out that that’s a beautiful place to pressure
- the campaign to make Bloomberg give way would be focused and clear.
Next meeting: Wednesday, Jan. 11th, 7 – 9 PM, 60 Wall St. Atrium
the fourth meeting minutes
Minutes from 12/29 meeting in the public lobby @ 120 park ave.
(across from grand central @ 42nd st.)
First topic – Move To Amend Occupy the Courts action 1/20/12
Jarret has applied for permits that will allow us to assemble at 500
Pearl starting at 4 PM, rally there ‘til 5:45, then march to Foley
Square around the fountain and rally there with speakers until 7 PM.
Rev. Billy has been contacted & is in discussion.
Jason & Melina are point people for inreach – contacting people in
OWS. Notes about what’s going on will be on http://notes.occupy.net/p/corpRIP.
Everyone should be doing outreach, but two above are point.
Barbara will write press release. Coordinate with Anne.
Jason reported that Direct Action accepted his proposal as supportable
12/29. His proposal had to do with both days, I believe. 15 people
from that group wanted to be involved. There was no info on whether
they wanted to be involved in planning or just to come that day.
Andre is good contact from there – involved in occupy the SEC.
Occupy Cinema and the Glass Bead Collective have been contacted by
Chen offered to do Facebook listings.
Second topic – Announcements: Demos & Gallery
Demos is having a breakfast with Bob Herbert & Jeff Clements, the
author of “Corporations Are Not People” Thu. Jan. 12th 8 AM at Demos -
220 Fifth Ave., 5th Fl. RSVP on website.
From Jan 4th a gallery will feature a show on corporate personhood.
Jason has details.
Third topic – Resolution for OWS GA & NYC Council Resolution
Chen has written a resolution for the NYCGA that we will ask them to
adopt at next meeting on New Year’s Eve. The NY City Council Website
has the proposed Council Resolution. We have been invited & will be
present at rally & press conference Jan. 4th.
Tim is presenting to the OWS Politics & Electoral Reform OWS working
Then we went back to discuss the Fri. rally at Foley & going to Pearl
St. Kim reported that we can’t be within 500’ of the court when it’s
in session, which complicates timing. We felt that permitting &
agenda need to be responsive to the participants. Speakers need to be
short and clear.
Regarding audio equipment & lights, Lorraine & Anthony said they would
talk to 1199, 32BJ & TWU about audio. Sally said she would ask IATSE
Fourth topic – Occupy the Corps Sat. Jan. 21st.
We set the time for 1 PM to 3 PM. There will be people with signs
stationed at as many locations as we can staff holding signs and
passing out flyers.
Direct Action at OWS was interested and would like to do a moving
procession – maybe from location to location and end up in a central
location – Times Square for example.
People from all locations should converge on the central location to
do a visible central rally.
The flyer should have connection to tax break outrage. BP Gas
station, Houston & Bway, GE Bldg, Rockefeller center, Comcast -
Next meeting, Fri., Jan. 6th 5 PM – 7 PM.
the third meeting minutes:
Against Corporate Personhood Meeting, Dec. 11, 2011, 60 Wall Street, 5
Attendance: Jarret, Anne, Karen, Barbara, Michelle, Bill, Jason,
Julia, Sally, Emily, Melina. Late: Lily, Ali, Adam, Chen.
Update: Occupy the Courts will take place Jan. 20, Occupy the
Corporations will take place Jan. 21.
Occupy the Courts: Sally and Melina visited the courthouses. They
recommend Foley Square or the State Supreme Court as locations for
Jan. 20. The event will take place in the afternoon, probably at 4 or
5. Julia asked who the target is. There was some discussion of
whether this will be a fixed point rally or involve people marching
(which would avoid arrests if there is no permit). Jarret proposed
that we meet at Pearl Street at the Federal Court then march to the
Thurgood Marshall Federal Courthouse. A temperature check on Jarret’s
suggestion was taken—mixed yes and maybe. A question was raised of how
many people would attend? Anne suggested we need to do outreach to
other groups we have contacts with to bring out as many people as
possible. Bill said he wanted to check out the locations. Lily stated
there is enough time to get a permit. We discussed a possible tie-in
to a local resolution. Sally suggested it was unlikely we could get a
resolution introduced before Jan. 21. Emily stated she knows a friend
of Jessica Lappin’s who could find out if she supports the idea.
Melina stated the symbolism of the Federal Court is important but the
state court is better visually. Jarret stated the size of the crowd is
not the most important thing; this is a national action and it is
imperative we have some type of presence even if it’s not as large as
we would like. No decision was made about the location(s).
City Council Resolution: Anne summarized the plan: Everyone needs to
send her their City Council District and contact info, which she will
put into an Excel Spreadsheet (email annerettenb...@msn.com). The
Excel document will be circulated so people see who else is in their
District. On Sunday at 11 a.m. at 60 Wall Street she will conduct a
training to prepare people for meeting with Council Members. Anne
suggested it might be impossible for us to all agree on a model
resolution but there were several model resolutions we can show to the
Council Members such as the LA resolution, Move to Amend’s suggested
resolution and Public Citizen’s suggested resolution. Jason suggested
giving Council members historical background. Lily said she will
distribute info from the Move to Amend website. Michelle suggested US
Sen. Bernie Sanders’ office might be able to help with background
info. Sally suggested we need to start working on this right away and
Anne concurred. Chen said if she was a city council member, she would
want to see a variety of resolutions before making a decision. Sally
agreed that council members will want to decide on the details
Adam announced that he is starting a Move to Amend affiliate for New
Occupy the Corporations: Sally said there will be signs saying things
like “Is this a person?” outside of corporate outlets. Jason is making
a publicity flyer. Sally said we will need to make informational
flyers to give to people, perhaps advocating for them to call their
council member to support a local resolution. Melina suggested
different locations around the city should be used and we should
brainstorm for locations. Jason suggested this could be a recurring
Sally distributed some information about Big Apple Coffee Party’s
“Don’t Do Koch” campaign.
the second meeting minutes:
Minutes from 11/30/11 meeting in the Atrium @ 60 Wall St.
Josh (drifted away & doesn’t want to join us further)
Cornelius (drifted away & I don’t know if he wants to join us further)
First topic – Move To Amend Occupy the Courts action 1/20/12
We need to find out about a location. The Federal Court building in
Foley Square is closed for renovations. Federal court is possibly now
being held at 500 Pearl Street (behind the main court house on Foley
Square – across the street from Columbus Park). We have a lot of
questions – is the court being held anywhere else in the city, what is
the street traffic like in any of these locations or would the steps
of the main (closed) court house be better?
Lily said she would look into a permit for the Court House steps or
the street – or Foley Square. What types of permits are available,
what’s the cost, etc.?
We talked about the video option of a flash mob doing a song based on
Beyonce’s Run the World (Girls) for a while. It’s possibly do-able.
Jarret has written some good lyrics. We could have some guys in
business suits singing “Corporations run the world” & maybe a chorus
of Supremes in black robes (choir robes?) This could be part of
program for a rally/occupy the court action on the 20th.
Then we talked about the chalk bombing idea (chalking “Is This A
Corporation?” outside of corporate outlets. There were difficulties –
legality, possibility of chalking in snow or rain. Alternately, we
figured people could stand or walk outside of those outlets with a
sign with the message, passing out a flyer or pamphlet. This would be
similar to action called for by Public Citizen and would happen on the
actual anniversary, 1/21/11.
Jason talked about the possibility of doing something where we tried
to find the person that a corporation is – possibly to try to arrest
them. This could be a video – but isn’t heavily formulated so we sort
of left it there – maybe later.
We talked about trying to get the City Council members who have been
involved in OWS (Jumani Williams, Ysidrio Rodriguez, Mellissa Mark-
Viverito) involved in getting a resolution passed by the Council. If
they’re interested, we could possibly kick off a drive to get this
accomplished at the action on the 20th – and put them on the program
for that activity.
We decided to do the Saturday activity for sure. Sally will be
organizational point person. Jason will be involved with flyer & is
interested in projections (don’t know exactly how we would want to use
this yet). Melina will be involved in picking locations for it.
We decided that we were very interested in the Fri. action and would
like to do it if at all possible. A flash mob might be too
complicated to organize so soon but we can just have a rally. Jarret
and Lily will be point people for it.
Jarret, Lily & Kim will work on outreach for both events. Sally is
getting contact info for Rev. Billy to find out if he would be
interested in the Fri. event.
Our next meeting will be Dec. 11th, 5 PM at the Atrium.
Taken by Sally. Edited by Jarret.
the first meeting minutes:
Minutes from November 9th, 2011 meeting, the Atrium @ 60 Wall St.
7:00-7:30p – Gathering and snacks. General introductions.
7:30-7:50p – Conference call
8:00-8:10p – Formal introductions:
Daniela Gioseffi – author of In Bed with the Exotic Enemy and On
Prejudice: A Global Perspective
Karin Hofmann – “The constitution is my bible.”
Frank from Pittsburgh
8:10-8:40p – Brainstorming Direct-Action ideas
Al – “I have a radical idea for the employed and unemployed!” Al
called for a mass, general strike on January 21st.
Daniela – Call-In Day – straight to finding ways to get ‘it’ on the
ballot in New York state. Find out how to get it on the ballot.
Petitions, digital democracy, Q&A regarding Corporate Personhood.
Karin – we must solely concentrate on putting pressure on NY state
legislators. The momentum is there and it’s already time to move to
direct change in policies and politics. A bill must be introduced that
the others will have to vote for as a big lead up to January 21st.
Sally – Big Apple Coffee Party has events (i.e. Open Mic) that we
should coordinate with.
Al – The way to gain momentum is a mechanical advantage illustrated by
physics. To get people on board we must hit them where they have no
tolerance for absence : the medical field. Physicians and healthcare
workers need to strike.
Emily/Daniela – Occupy the Courts (Move to Amend) on Friday, January
20th including Supreme Court as a catalyst for public dialog and
Frank – Chalk bombing outside of corporations. Such phrases as “Is
this a person?” outside of McDonald’s, Starbucks, etc. Can also be
done at a protest in Delaware where a majority of corporations have
their headquarters. (“Are you giving birth to corporations?”)
June – We need to get to the “voiceless” of the 99% and engage them in
conversation and dialog. The busboys, bartenders, janitors, etc…
Melina – coordinating efforts with any outreach groups who might
already exist to help with June’s idea listed above.
Jason – sourcewatch has info. ALEC (American Legislative Executive
Council http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Legislative_Exchange_Council .
They should be targeted.
Al – We should Occupy major news stations and media outlets. (i.e.
outside during the Today Show, Good Morning America, etc.)
Frank – Humor disarms. Often people are overloaded with info. heavy
handouts, posts, etc…we should have some humorous propaganda to
enlighten and still inform.
Jarret – Coordinate/stage/film a performance of a parody of Beyonce’s
“Run The World (Girls)” named “Run The World (Corporations)” on the
steps of the Courthouse. Make it viral.
8:40-8:50p – Conversed about various ideas and their practicality/
8:50-9:00p – Voted on direct-action ideas. Chalking, Occupy the Courts
and flash mob got most votes.
9:00p - Decided next meeting November 30th, 7-9pm in the Atrium @ 60
Wall St. Google group would be created and invitations sent out.
Taken by Franco. Edited by Jarret.